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Someone sent me an ebook this morning. A commercial ebook they hacked so they could pass it around to their friends. I responded to the email that I didn't want to receive such things in the future and that I had deleted the ebook without opening it. 

Ebook piracy is a slap in the face of an author. In accepting a book like that, I'm telling that author they weren't worth money. I've been a writer for 25 years. I don't treat other writers that way.

Anyways, the person in question emails back is grossly offended by my "judgment" of her activities. I suppose she's waiting on an email where I tell her I wasn't judging her or her stealing. Well, she'll have a long wait.  I totally judged her, measured her, and found her wanting. Really. I did.

It's theft. It's wrong. It's disgusting. I want no part of it. I don't pirate books. I don't download movies and I only watched one episode of a tv show illegally. Earlier in the year I watched the first episode of Sherlock on megaupload (before the implosion) and felt really guilty about it. I didn't watch the rest of the season as  result and now I have to wait until it comes to Amazon so I can buy the season (which was how I rationalized watching it to begin with -- I always intended to buy it). Still, a moments of enjoyment left me feeling really guilty afterwards. It certainly wasn't what I've considered "fair use". 

No matter how good that book might have been --reading a pirated copy would've been wrong and I would have eventually gone to buy it anyway just so I could feel better about myself. Because, yeah, that's right -- it's really all about me.




Date: 2012-03-03 05:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bjhull.livejournal.com
Good for you. I'm anxiously awaiting the new season of Sherlock to hit Netflix, but the wait won't actually kill me.

Date: 2012-03-03 07:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aileyfallon.livejournal.com
It might kill me but I'm waiting any way... And checking amazon once a week to see if I can pre-order.

In the meantime I'm watching season 1 to hold me over.

Date: 2012-03-04 04:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jademac2442.livejournal.com
If you want, you can get it legally from Amazon.co.uk. Here's the link. It's a region free DVD, so you can watch in the states. You just have to pay the shipping. http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B005UL53AQ

Date: 2012-03-04 07:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aileyfallon.livejournal.com
Awsome! Thanks! I tried looking for this in jan but couldn't find a reg free one at the time...

Date: 2012-03-04 08:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jademac2442.livejournal.com
Welcome. Glad it made you happy. It definitely made me happy.

Date: 2012-03-03 06:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spaci1701.livejournal.com
I'm right there with you. I admit to eliding the line slightly - I pay for cable but never get a chance to watch my shows when they're on, so I will download an ep, watch it, then delete it. I treat it like I would the dvr that never works right w/ the 4 other people in the house messing with settings.

No one else seems to get it - the pro ebooks I have I've either paid for, are now public property (Little Women, etc) or were legit free from the publisher (thank you David Weber and Baen!!!) How can you enjoy art that the artist didn't give you permission for?

Date: 2012-03-03 06:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pyrotechnik.livejournal.com
How can you enjoy art that the artist didn't give you permission for?
Yes. This, exactly. Also, everyone has a talent, and these artists make money off of theirs. I look at it as, how would you like someone to swipe your paycheck? You wouldn't. So, don't do it to others. Legit free stuff is awesome, but, like your momma taught you, stealing is wrong.

Date: 2012-03-03 09:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rosefyre.livejournal.com
Agreed - if my DVR isn't working, or the timing of a show gets changed (as sometimes happens with sports games), I feel no shame over going onto Hulu and watching, say, SNL. I'm paying for cable, and it's not my fault the damned thing doesn't always work right.

Date: 2012-03-03 10:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rosefyre.livejournal.com
True. Also means it doesn't come with viruses, which can be a major problem with downloaded media. (Which, not the only reason I don't do it, but...certainly doesn't make me want to.)

Date: 2012-03-03 06:24 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] goddess47
It's heartening to find someone else that feels the same way... I pay for Netflix, buy books (e- and real!) or read fan fiction, and pay the cable bill (semi-)gladly...

I understand the (not so well thought out) theory that 'art should be an expression of freedom and therefore should be free' -- but then explain to me how the artist / writer / musician / etc puts a roof over their head and food on the table? Hmmm?

And it is *really* all about you! ::snicker::

Date: 2012-03-03 07:07 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] danceswithgary
What you said. :-D

Date: 2012-03-03 06:56 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] starr_falling
+1

My mother taught me not to steal and would smack me into the next state if I did any such thing. My brother-in-law gave me a pirated copy of The Hitchhiker's Guide movie and not only could I not watch it, I haven't been able to bring myself to watch it completely legally because I feel too guilty about even taking the disk. :(

Date: 2012-03-04 03:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rivkaesque.livejournal.com
If you loved the book, then you didn't miss that much. They sucked all the whimsy out and left us with batshit.

Date: 2012-03-04 03:48 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] starr_falling
TBH, though I loved the books, the only reason I was going to watch the movie was because I had recently seen Sherlock and was looking for other works with Benedict Cumberbatch or Martin Freeman. Which is how I discovered that To the Ends of the Earth features Benedict Cumberbatch's ass. I can't tell you whether it was any good or not as I didn't really have time to watch it and just fast forwarded to his ass. That was marvelous. ;)

Date: 2012-03-03 07:15 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] desertpoet
I completely agree with you. I illegally downloaded a episode of a show exactly once in my life and I felt so guilty I couln't even enjoy it.

Date: 2012-03-03 08:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] twilightseeker3.livejournal.com
More power to you. It IS stealing and should be treated as such. I am so glad you took a stand. I hope the person in question buys a clue.

gentle journey,
twi

Date: 2012-03-03 08:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] qzee.livejournal.com
out of curiosity, what is your stand on sharing music files? Do you stick to uploading CD's and buying music through Itunes or whatever or what?

Date: 2012-03-04 03:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rivkaesque.livejournal.com
Question: how do you deal with drm'ed music or music ripped from CD's you legally own that run out of transfers? Do you use a DRM breaker or go buy it all over again?

Date: 2012-03-03 09:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladyholder.livejournal.com
Now that was in total bad taste on the part of the minion... You have made your stance on this perfectly clear. Several times at that.

I really hope that they listen this time.

~L

Date: 2012-03-03 09:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] qbic1.livejournal.com
Oh, I agree completely. I was a big fan of limewire for music until it hit me one day, damn, I've just contributed to the stealing of America. I spent bookuus on iTunes that summer buying everything I'd downloaded.

I still loved get fanfic on megalaud, gonna miss that site though. It was the best place to get slashpodfic. sigh!

Date: 2012-03-04 12:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rivkaesque.livejournal.com
I will admit that I will read/watch/listen to something the FIRST time for free if it is available from a legit library, artists' sampling site, or hulu-ish site. Then, if I like it, I buy it.

Frequently, an inability to do so will lead to me not reading/listening/watching it at all, and therefore, not buying.

Date: 2012-03-04 12:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tlyna.livejournal.com
Well done. I gave up my satellite as I don't watch enough TV to make it worthwhile and I don't get decent reception on my local stayions so I only watch TV when visiting someone. If I see a show I like I buy it.

OT: Alex O'Loughlin will be missing from at least one episode of H5O.

'Hawaii Five-0' star takes break from show

HONOLULU (AP) — A representative for Alex O'Loughlin says the "Hawaii Five-0" star is taking time away from the show to get treated for problems related to pain medication.
Rachael Wesolowski says in a report by the Honolulu Star-Advertiser that O'Loughlin " is taking a short break to receive supervised treatment for prescription pain medication due to a recent shoulder injury."
Series producer CBS Television Studios and O'Loughlin representatives declined to comment on the nature of O'Loughlin's injuries or his treatment.
O'Loughlin, who portrays crime fighter Steve McGarrett, is known for doing many of his own stunts on the action-packed show. The paper says he reportedly will be absent for at least one episode.
CBS says in a statement that "everyone at CBS Television Studios and 'Hawaii Five-0' wishes him well and we look forward to his return."
http://news.yahoo.com/report-hawaii-five-0-star-takes-break-show-082250099.html;_ylt=AjUajVRCc73ytEt_Vr6wTUfNbbUC;_ylu=X3oDMTNqN2p1bTdxBGNjb2RlA2N0LmMEcGtnAzY2YzI2ODljLWY4NWUtMzA1Ni05YmQ4LTYwNmY0NDExM2E4NARwb3MDNwRzZWMDbW9zdF9wb3B1bGFyBHZlcgNjNTBiNGU1MC02NTdmLTExZTEtYWY3ZS02NWFiOTcxNzAxYWM-;_ylg=X3oDMTJiaDR2OG51BGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRwc3RhaWQDBHBzdGNhdANlbnRlcnRhaW5tZW50fGRlYXIgYWJieQRwdANzZWN0aW9ucwR0ZXN0Aw--;_ylv=3

Date: 2012-03-04 01:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lilz54.livejournal.com
Agree with you 100%! I applaud your actions!

Date: 2012-03-04 02:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gilesbabe.livejournal.com
We bought a zone free DVD player so I could get a movie that was only availble on DVD in England. It has come in handy a few more times, but the I think that somehow I was really just preparing for series 2 of Sherlock. I ordered it from Amazon UK the day it went on sale there.

It is breathtakingly brillant.

watching

Date: 2012-03-04 05:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] marmalade02.livejournal.com
Did you know you can also buy them off the bbc site! the shipping is a bit steep but the season is only about 20 bucks, not ridiculous like dr. who is. unfortunately i'm guilty of watching sherlock online, i was very skeptical of the premise and then i couldn't stop - I actually missed a day of classes to see through season 2.... i'm a bad person but i did buy it legally and if i can watch the two of them (OMG season 2 ep 1 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) i can live with the guilt.

Date: 2012-03-04 07:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aileyfallon.livejournal.com
Stealing is wrong period, but there is also the more practical side... If you steal the book, movie, tv show or music the artist does not get paid which means they can't make a living and may not be able to continue making their art.

(frozen)

Date: 2012-03-04 12:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] marsandra.livejournal.com
Deleted my original post, didn't want to get roasted by zealous minions.

Most books from American or British author's are readily available, some for music and movies. TV-series? Nope, if you aren't living in the country it aired originally, rich enough to pay trice as much as people in the country of origin and still want to take part in the fandom (which doesn't wait a year until the DVDs are available everywhere) you are fucked. And not in the good way.

I do pay for my copies. When they come out in my country.

Date: 2012-03-04 05:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anneruane.livejournal.com
Thank you for this.

This has been a bone of contention in our house since the hubby and I have first met. After a lot of nagging and arguing and me pointing out that he was undermining our own bottom lone when I was drawing a salary from the publishing industry, we finally compromised. He only downloads stuff we already legitimately own in another format, or in the case of music he only keeps it for a month and then buys the CD if he still wants it.

Even that much makes me feel sleezy sometimes. I'm one of those who are still anxiously waiting for Sherlock to be available in the states! I haven't seen a single bit of season two yet.

Date: 2012-03-04 07:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladymina.livejournal.com
I do have a few not quite kosher mp3's but I don't worry about it as the band gave one of us a copy of the cd and said, sorry its the last do burn it for the rest of you please, we really want all of you to have it.
So while it is not a bought copy it is an authorized copy in a way. (And I helped them sell their merch that day, so no guilt from me)
I have ebooks mainly from Gutenberg (so copyright free) and some from give aways - the occasionally promo stuff.

I do admit to watching TV series episodes online, but I do not feel guilty about it at all. I intend to buy them once they are sold in my country, which often gets delayed due to the irritating habit of dubbing stuff before they put it out on tv and trying not to sell it till the season had their run on our tv dubbed. I refuse to watch them dubbed, so I watch them online (not download them) and buy once they are in the shops . This has more to do with the fact that I absolutely refuse to watch dubbed stuff than anything else. We still pay for tv and all. But I cannot stand dubbed stuff at all.
Occasionally I watch parts of a first episode if people are raving about a series and I have no idea if I will like it or not. Also occasionally I watch parts of an episode of something dubbed to find out the original voices


If I like something and plan to see/read/hear it all I will pay for it, (sooner or later in case of tv stuff).

Date: 2012-03-04 08:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] otrame.livejournal.com
Good for you Kiera.

I have once or twice made a copy of a song or two from a borrowed DVD, but only when I have purchased that particular album at least twice (I am old enough that some of my music was purchased on LPs, 8-tracks, cassette tapes, and DVDs). The only other time was a Live at Lincoln Center performance of A Comedy of Errors, starring The Flying Karamozov Brothers and Emil the Excentric, televised about 25 years ago. I had a copy I recorded on VHS that my family just plain wore out. Lincoln Center has been begged and pleaded with and has refused to release a copy for sale, so when someone found a copy in a dusty corner in a PBS station and uploaded it, I downloaded it. I will, however, be very happy to pay for it, if Lincoln Center ever changes their minds.

Date: 2012-03-06 02:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flitter-and-fly.livejournal.com
I admire your ability to stand up to what you think is wrong. (also, Bruno Mars was a great accompaniment).

I have never gotten music illegally (unless you count listening to songs on youtube... in which case then sort of, but I know of a number of singers that are actually glad when someone makes a vid out of their song/s because that will attract more people to buy them). I ask for iTunes gift cards with every holiday because I like supporting singers, especially those who aren't famous yet or who often get screwed over by their record company or the public.

I'm afraid I'm a bit worse about tv shows however. I have a netflix account which I always check first, but if something is not on netflix, then I often go find it to watch online somewhere else (Hulu when it's there... but more often megavideo until it was taken down). If I like the show, I buy it (see -> Sherlock and Stargate). I know it's probably wrong of me... but then again I watch 95% of my shows/movies on netflix. I didn't wait for Sherlock season 2 to come up because I knew that I would buy it the minute it because available for me so...

But on the subject of books... I love ebooks and I am passionate that authors should get every penny for the stories they create. In fact, I will sometimes pay for a single book twice (through physical copy and ebook)... I don't agree with illegal pirating of books and I don't think I ever will.

But there is my bias, I suppose.

Date: 2012-03-08 08:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vasaris.livejournal.com
I love you so much. So many people I know will say 'I'll just rip you a copy' of some music, or 'I just scan/wtfever' that, or 'I don't see the problem with doing...'

It makes me crazy when an artist friend of mine does it. She gets a *tiny* bit of a pass for her youth, but not much of one -- the look on her face when I said 'I won't take a pirate -- artists deserve to be paid' was pretty priceless, though.

Intellectual property has value and should be valued by everyone who experiences it -- citing 'but artits don't get paid much per cd/book/wtf-ever' isn't an excuse to deny them what they *DO* get paid for it. Grrrrs.

Date: 2012-03-08 11:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] muggy69.livejournal.com
I LOVE YOU. XOXOXOXOX

Date: 2012-03-08 05:07 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] hoktauri
While originally the intent behind my downloading was to replenish my music collection after ALL my CDs were stolen from my car, it eventually went beyond that.

Your post inspired me to delete my torrent software and go out and buy CDs from my favorite artists. And it's a good thing, too--the new Florence + the Machine is amazing, and I'm happy to give her my vote to keep producing such wonderful art. ♥

Thank you for this post, hon.

Date: 2012-03-14 07:44 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] writinginct.livejournal.com
I'm the same way - I have a real problem with illegal downloads (whether it be video, books, or music- it just doesn't matter). If something is available commercially for me to purchase (or watch) legally I will always choose that option.

That said - I'll admit that I recently bought a bootleg VHStoDVD copy of The Sentinel seasons 2/3/4. I purchased season 1 through Amazon legally, and I will be more than glad to purchase seasons 2/3/4 legally as well if and when they are ever released. But I am getting beyond annoyed at TPTB who release just *one* frakkin' season of an older show on DVD. It's lunacy.

Date: 2012-03-15 06:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beverly priest (from livejournal.com)
I totally understand where you're coming from. I refuse to read any of Emily Dickinson's poetry because she never meant for anyone to read it. She put it in her will that she wanted it to be burned. I haven't been able to read her work since I found out and I still feel like I violated her ten years after the fact for the poetry I was made to read in one of my English classes.