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People who are angry about (etc.)

Date: 2013-05-24 12:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] justalurkr.livejournal.com
...have got to get lives.

Happy thing:
Deleted shower scene (http://popwatch.ew.com/2013/05/23/benedict-cumberbatch-shower-scene-star-trek/)

Re: People who are angry about (etc.)

Date: 2013-05-24 12:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] neeliemom.livejournal.com
Well, I just got back from seeing the latest Star Trek, and boy did BC chew the scenery! He's got a great voice. Always fun to see Kirk & Spock.

Re: People who are angry about (etc.)

Date: 2013-05-24 06:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] justalurkr.livejournal.com
I think the voice is part why he got the part. He can both look and sound superior and sinister. Oh, and hot.
:-)

Re: People who are angry about (etc.)

Date: 2013-05-25 03:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vasaris.livejournal.com
"Now... shall we begin?"

Um, yes. I have no idea what you just said, Mr. Khan, sir, but I just came in my pants so I kinda don't care... *life support destroyed* Well, fuck. At least talk us through the slow asphyxiation?

Re: People who are angry about (etc.)

Date: 2013-05-26 01:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] justalurkr.livejournal.com
:D I'm pretty sure you weren't, either.

Re: People who are angry about (etc.)

Date: 2013-05-24 09:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] inu-spockya.livejournal.com
not only that, there are more than a few Anglo Sikhs, both here and in the UK, some by marriage, some first-generation converts, and some whose recent ancestors became Sikhs-by-Choice. So really, he *could* have had just that name and that phenotype.

I'm as quick to hate racism as anyone, being mixed-blood myself and bullied for it as a cub -- but srsly, there are far more honest criticisms that could be made, that's one hell of a reach.

An old guy I worked for once told me I was a traitor to my race (grey eyes dark brown hair, olive skin), and I just laughed and said "Which one?"

kinda reminds me of the overwrought academic who once claimed that all hetsex was inherently rape, no matter whether the participants thought so. Eeesh, get a life...

ETA: mm, yummy Bennyshower is yummy!!
Edited Date: 2013-05-24 09:30 am (UTC)

Re: People who are angry about (etc.)

Date: 2013-05-24 06:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] justalurkr.livejournal.com
The Glower Shower is part of the reason nothing could make me mad yesterday. Lots of people have had legitimate criticism of the movie, but I still managed to be entertained. Picturing some sort of ragefuck threesome in that shower cheered me up considerably.

Re: People who are angry about (etc.)

Date: 2013-05-28 09:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] inu-spockya.livejournal.com
mmm, yessss... :D yeah, that's a nice brain video, dat right dere. *drools* he just looked so, hm, I think "edible" is the right descriptor for that little snippet. kinda thing you stash safely away in memory, for to enjoy it one fine late night or two *big evil grin*

Date: 2013-05-25 09:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vasaris.livejournal.com
*snorts*

I enjoyed the movie, but for love of God/Science/Eukaryotic Lifeforms/or maybe pasta... The movie has more holes than Swiss fucking cheese, has a logic that's held together by fairy dust and Benedict Cumberbatch's charisma (and only barely at that). I'll cheerfully pick apart things like... Volcanoes don't work like that, how fucking stupid are you? Exactly how far away is the Klingon empire? Because if we can get there in half a day, the Federation has a serious goddamn problem. And, Admiral Marcus? I don't care how fucking badass your ship is, starting a war when you've only got one... is so ridiculously fucking suicidal I can't even process it. I. Simply. Can't. Parse. Your. Logic. You might as well slap "Free slaves/subjugated worlds!!" on every Federation planet. Jesus. I'd call you a wanker, but its an unlikely pastime for you, what with the fact that your ship doesn't even begin to make up for the subatomic size of your dick.

Seriously, I can probably go on for hours and I liked the film. It's the post movie "wait, what?" that keeps getting me.

But, no, people are going to get argumentative about "oh, no, Khan isn't being played by a minority"?

If he had been, it would have been the fucking screams about how the colored man is always the bad guy, and both stances forget that Khan Noonien Singh is a motherfucking genetically engineered supersoldier. Once the scientists were done, his base "race" is goddamn well meaningless. In theory, how he looks has fuck all to do with his underlying phenotype, and -- depending on how one actually understands genetic engineering (which is to say, hello, we've got a much better idea of what it would take than they did in the sixties, and Steve's supersoldier serum and vita rays aren't it) -- he would have been built from the ground up, so race little to do with anything, and his name a whim of the dimwits that thought creating him was a good idea. (No, really, creating a highly aggressive subspecies that will think you're inferior and worthless... This is a good idea, why?)

I'm all for casting the most creepily charismatic actor they could find, and BC? Excellent damn choice. I'm positive they could have found a Hispanic/Indian/Asian/African, too, but BC is a known quantity for at least vaguely sociopathic supercharisma.

Tl;dr: OMG, people are stupid. Although I'd love to see Rodney's reaction to the whole thing, as the science is so bad it's actually pretty hysterical.

Date: 2013-05-25 01:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] justalurkr.livejournal.com
Maybe they took a shortcut through a super gate to the capital of the Klingon Empire?

Excellent points about genetic engineering.

Date: 2013-05-25 03:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vasaris.livejournal.com
Ooooh, supergate.

Does anyone else desperately want to see a workable stargate/star trek crossover? Because Khan being a result of the Trust's massively shortsighted cloning program and maybe containing some Goa'uld DNA and genetic memory/drive would explain so freaking much.

This intrigues me

Date: 2013-05-26 02:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] justalurkr.livejournal.com
Even though my first thought was "has the Trust got anyone competent enough to produce Khan from a lab?"

Think they could get hold of Wraith DNA?

Re: This intrigues me

Date: 2013-05-26 03:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vasaris.livejournal.com
As I recall they had Ba'al (for a while, and other Goa'uld). I mean, the Jaffa are awesome, but the limitation of requiring a symbiote and being detectable because of the symbiote... Seriously, servants like Khan would be damn useful. As ruthless and kickass as a Jaffa but capable of being more covert. And I think Ba'al, at least would appreciate the form and function. And the sick humor of the Trust creating their own conquerors with his help.

Aaaaaand, wow, random desire for Khan/Ba'al slash, because, er, reasons! (like, oh, shit hot, and there's some evil overlords to get on one's knees for... *cough*)

As for Wraith DNA... sure, why not? I can't imagine Caldwell's symbiote keeping that kind of shit to himself, can you? And, face it -- the Trust and Things They Should Not Have is kind of its own OTP.

Re: This intrigues me

Date: 2013-05-26 11:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] justalurkr.livejournal.com
Okay, first my brain went offline for a little bit in the contemplation of Ba'al/Khan, then it came back from its little vacation with "I don't care how you do it, but there must be Khan/Loki in my future."

Because...er, reasons. Brain is also stuck on what Tony Stark and/or Rodney McKay would make of the Enterprise.

It's very random in there before meds in the morning.

Re: This intrigues me

Date: 2013-05-26 04:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vasaris.livejournal.com
*eyes glaze a bit for Khan/Loki, brain responds with Ba'al/Loki and a chaser of Ba'al/Tony(/Loki) because, okay thing for Ba'al, and goatees and long hair... My brain is an odd place because Khan just Dommed the hell out of Thor and made Steve watch. And Natasha is totes in one of those cryotubes.* I wish I wasn't absolute shit at writing sex.

And, dude, Rodney or Tony on the Enterprise would be *golden*...

Re: This intrigues me

Date: 2013-05-27 12:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] justalurkr.livejournal.com
Actually, Rodney McKay (and John Sheppard) on the Enterprise has been done (http://www.wraithbait.com/viewstory.php?sid=3803&index=1). I feel the need to reread now. :D

Natasha is very likely the power behind Khan's throne.

Re: This intrigues me

Date: 2013-05-27 07:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vasaris.livejournal.com
Although Rodney and John with nu!Kirk would be kind of priceless.

Re: This intrigues me

Date: 2013-05-28 10:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] inu-spockya.livejournal.com
khan/loki, baal, khan, & all the tasty perverted permutations thereof... mmm, om nom nom. I do like the way your brain works, o yes indeed!! and definitely For Reasons. hell, For Science!!!

*looks all shifty-eyed* *grins some moar*

Date: 2013-05-28 10:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] inu-spockya.livejournal.com
awww, dayum,
I'd pay good money to see that fic!! *eyes all glittery* yup.

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