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Sep. 13th, 2010 05:57 pm
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There is this person at the cafe whom even Sci-Fi Writer goes out of his way to avoid speaking with and when I first met that guy I was pretty sure that Sci-Fi Writer could argue with anyone.

Since I don't like to use people's names on my journal -- we're going to call this guy Know-It-All. Know-It-All as you might have already guessed appears to know everything. He claims to have a variety of degrees but I've never been interested enough to actually investigate any of his claims. Let's just say that I've rarely met anyone that actually had multiple PhDs by the time he's 35. In fact, the only person I've ever met with 3 PhDs received his third in his 50's because he got bored and changed careers. Sooo... I'm not sure I believe him but whatever.

My main problem with Know-It-All isn't that I think he's a big ole liar. It's that he intrudes on people with his mountain of so-called "knowledge" and butts in on conversations without an invitation to give us his two-scents worth.

Me and Sci-Fi Writer were having a spirited debate over the "conflict" in his new book. I read the book over the weekend at his request (which is pretty rare for him) because he wanted some feedback on his character work which he considers my best trait as a writer. I wasn't aware that he read my girl-porn as he likes to call "romance". At any rate, we were discussing his book and the problems with the conflict that he has and whatever. It was a pretty heated debate because that's how we are when we're together. Know-It-All decides to jump into the conversation.

Know-It-All is one of those people who says, "Oh, you're a writer. I've always wanted to write a book."

PRIMAL SCREAM. Because it's easy, right?

Anyways, he jumps into our conversation and takes Sci-Fi Writer's side in the debate (male bonding, anyone?) and Sci-Fi Writer turns to him and says, "Are you really under the impression that I need your help with this discussion?"

LMAO.

Snotty Chicklit Writer says I've ruined Sci-Fi Writer because he used to be so much more polite to people.

Date: 2010-09-13 11:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] diane-mckay.livejournal.com
lol, keep on doing the work that you do!

Date: 2010-09-13 11:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stargate-loon.livejournal.com
LMAO! You know the most interesting people! I'm so jealous.... And yes, Know-it-all people suck. *Grins*

Date: 2010-09-13 11:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tiddletat666.livejournal.com
Did you tell her you were just 'spreading the love' Thanks brought a smile to me face, on what is going to be a shitty day.

Date: 2010-09-13 11:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] melonbutterfly.livejournal.com
YOU MADE ME MORE SNARKY TOO.
Well, not more snarky, you made me think it's okay to be bitchy and that you don't have to be polite all the time.

Date: 2010-09-13 11:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] melonbutterfly.livejournal.com
I agree, I was just too shy (or perhaps repressed, lol) to be blunt with people I don't know very well.

Date: 2010-09-14 12:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] insanityoutlet.livejournal.com
Just think of it as spreading the gospel of snark.

Date: 2010-09-14 12:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] batspit.livejournal.com
LOL!
Thats me, a faithful disciple of the church of snark.

Does our Deity take attendance? (Big Bang reference)

Date: 2010-09-14 01:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tamstercmt.livejournal.com
LMAO
And Keira is our high priestess....

Date: 2010-09-14 12:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bjhull.livejournal.com
eh. Just start calling Know-It-All Cliff. You know, the postman on Cheers? Actually, he reminds me of my nephew's sperm donor. After my husband and I met him the first time we decided he must have been about 80 years old because everytime someone mentioned any occupation or hobby, he had done it for a career for at least 15 years. I don't blame my sister too much, she'd just gotten out of a bad marriage and as awful as SD was, he was several rungs up the evolutionary ladder from the evil ex (who still lives with his mom in his 50's btw.)

Date: 2010-09-14 12:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] magda-666.livejournal.com
Snotty Chicklit Writer says I've ruined Sci-Fi Writer because he used to be so much more polite to people.


best compliment ever ;)

Date: 2010-09-14 01:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alwaysn-4ever.livejournal.com
Well at least you know Sci-Fi Writer was serious about appreciating your character work cause he's got your Rodney nailed.

Date: 2010-09-14 01:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] timespirt.livejournal.com
Nobody asked know it all's opinion in the first place!

And you have trained minions, what's not to like? LOL

You are so chanelling Rodney and so bad-ass!

Date: 2010-09-14 01:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tamstercmt.livejournal.com
Nah, you didn't ruin Sci-fi Writer. You've just helped him reach his inner snark.

Date: 2010-09-14 01:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] atuinsails.livejournal.com
Naw, all writers need a some snark and sarcasm. It helps take down the people who assume that we do nothing but think up stories all day .

Date: 2010-09-14 01:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] atuinsails.livejournal.com
Yeah, I hear you. Hey, my husband wanted to know why your website is in my list of homepage tabs, and I laughed at him. He doesn't get it.

Date: 2010-09-14 02:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] atuinsails.livejournal.com
Oh, I've already told him that. He just doesn't understand fandom or respect. I respect your opinoin as a writer and because I am a fangirl/minisloth.

Example: I asked your opinion on self publishing, and while I don't entirely understand your answer, I also didn't jump in and try to start a discussion/debate. My husband wants to know why. I explain, I asked for your opinion, you gave it, and it stops there, because essentially, we are sort of strangers and the forum was that of teacher to student, not a troll on my facebook page.

He is puzzled and says, How come discussions between you and your mother don't go that way? I answer, Because I haven't asked her opnion on any subject outside of sewing and diaper changing in years, but she still gives it to me.

BTW, I hate to bring this up, but food and weight are a very sore point between my mother and I. Apparently, if I would just stop eating, I could be thin. Personally, I prefer to be alive. This went on for many years until I had to take a verbal stick and beat my mother with it, which caused me a lot of pain. I see things in common between my mother and your sister in their approaches to family. I could polish off that verbal stick for you.

Thinking and sending good energy your way, your minisloth ... I mean fan girl ... well internet friendly person acquaintance. Yeah, I'm a stalker all right. But I'm a stalker with boundaries.

Date: 2010-09-14 03:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bjhull.livejournal.com
I read your snark out loud to the husband to preach your awesomeness.

Date: 2010-09-14 02:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bjhull.livejournal.com
I wonder when the stupid quotient got so high. I can no longer stand shows where the main character is stupid and it's supposed to be funny/charming. I spend all damn day dealing with stupid people and they are just a major pain in my ass. My current favorite is the person who says, well it would only take a couple minutes to ... (insert waste of time activity). Yeah but if you multiply those couple of minutes by the 40 people I'm juggling on my schedule, you've wasted a good hour and a half on my workday doing nothing to solve your problem.

Date: 2010-09-14 01:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] adafrog.livejournal.com
Snotty Chicklit Writer says I've ruined Sci-Fi Writer because he used to be so much more polite to people.
lol You go, girl!

Date: 2010-09-14 02:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rivkaesque.livejournal.com
Well, if you've ruined him - could you please ruin me, too? At work the other day, I wanted to say 'As amazing as you seem to think I am, even I cannot deduce what the problem is here without looking at the configuration!' But I'm too much of a fraidy cat to ever say something so impolite. God. I need Rodney lessons.

Date: 2010-09-14 11:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rivkaesque.livejournal.com
Oooooh. Now THAT I might be able to say!

Date: 2010-09-14 03:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bjhull.livejournal.com
okay, stealing that. I have asked people if they'd like to call all the people who called ahead of them to explain just why their problems are more important than anyone else.

Date: 2010-09-14 05:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] khayli.livejournal.com
My usual one...Has your intelligence level reached cretin yet? No it hasn't therefore I will discuss this at the point you have reached moron and since you haven't reached cretin it will be along while before we will be discussing anything.... for some reason my sisters get really pissed at me when I say that.

Date: 2010-09-14 07:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mythologian.livejournal.com
most people could do with your kind of 'ruining'

Date: 2010-09-14 10:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elfgirl.livejournal.com
Yeah, ok, I've always been snarky. Often inappropriately so, so you didn't ruin me. Maybe that's what called to me about your work, like a kindred spirit...or whatthefuckever. *wavy hands*

ANYWAY, I really stopped by to share this: http://www.martinfirrell.com/joeflanigan/ -- in particular, the video with the purple in the still shot.

Date: 2010-09-17 12:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] christella2.livejournal.com
thank you for the link i really enjoyed that site

I've always wanted to write a book, too

Date: 2010-09-16 11:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] justalurkr.livejournal.com
I'm pretty sure Know-it-All's story (and he's sticking to it) is that he just hasn't taken the time, and could probably whip one out (wink wink nudge nudge) on his coffee break if he weren't so busy enlightening the benighted around him.

My story, with which I have no honest choice but to stick, is that I've tried. Higher Power(s) of Your Choice, I've tried. Reams of unmitigated adolescent crap inspired by LOTR and/or Heinlein went into the shredder when I moved out of my parents' house. I had the "OMG, there are so many pulp romances on the market, anyone should be able to do that" phase. (Weirdly, it was trying to write an intentionally funny sex scene that persuaded me there; I never got to the part about being characterization-challenged.) Writing a short story should be like making a bracelet, right? As close to instant gratification as a craft gets? (quiet moan of agony over that traumatic flashback to disaster)

I have an IQ of 165, a Cold War-vintage BA in International Relations and a well-developed know-it-all complex of my own and would still NEVER EVER HAVE THE NERVE TO ACT LIKE WRITING IS EASY. I hope you guys skinned him out for a fashion accessory and moved on to a berry scone or something.

Re: I've always wanted to write a book, too

Date: 2010-09-16 12:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] justalurkr.livejournal.com
Aww - thanks. In a matter related to how much I adore you, I finished "Justice" this morning. While I don't have a nice, clean infirmary, I can provide Bones a near-sterile environment inside our newest switching facility at Major Wireless Carrier. The call processors hum politely and some of the switch engineers are kind of hot. While he's enjoying all the dust-free technology, Pike will of course need someone to share his sleeping bag. (Um, there wasn't anyone out there who thought I was being charitable was there? Self Interest R Us.) Alternatively, I would be happy to chaparone the boys by, oh...sleeping between them? Strictly platonic, of course. They're underage and betrothed.

On a more serious note, I quite enjoyed the realization of consequence for Pike -- getting real justice came at a cost for the intensely private Kirk. Still, given the outline of the Betazoid judicial system (which totally fits what I remember of canon concerning them, by the way!) that really is the only thing I'd want to happen to Brise. As someone who actively and unsuccessfully avoided the circus that was the OJ Simpson trial, I was surprised at myself for not thinking of this consequence. The global grasp you have on crafting a plot, characters and consequences...AND DOING IT IN MULTIPLE UNIVERSES...explains a lot why you are the writer and people like Know It All are not.

inre Know It All: belt, shoes or is there enough for a full set including briefcase?






Date: 2010-09-17 12:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] christella2.livejournal.com
i dearly love you and your friends
sarcasm is an artform when it is done well!!
and both yourself and sci-fi writer are doing extremely well
keep up the good work.